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Old 07-22-2009, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ANR bad or good?

How does everyone like their ANR setups? We are thinking about adding it to our line but I hear there are issues. Any feedback would be great!
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've been using Bose ANR headsets for many years, from their first model thru the Bose X. They've been superb but are expensive. There are a number of less expensive alternatives which seem to perform quite well.
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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ANR headsets are great, but as Richard said, they do get to be a bit on the expensive side, depending on what you are looking for. There are several different models out there that offer a variety of features as well as varying costs. As technology changes, the headset manufactures are trying to adapt that technology into the headsets.

Some of the ANR headsets now have bluetooth technology which allows you to connect your cell phones or ipods to the headset.
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have a Lightspeed Zulu and I couldn't ask for a better headset, comfortable and quiet. It also has blue tooth for my phone and various different settings allowing me to adjust the sound for music. To be honest though I don't listen to music when I'm flying, I do when I'm a passenger, I just feel it takes away your focus from the task at hand.
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Old 07-27-2009, 10:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I wont use a passive headset ever again. I swear by my lightspeed zulu so much that I want another one as a backup.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Been using ANR since Telex came out with a fairly mediocre set that used 6 AA batteries. When the Lightspeed Thirty Three-Gs came out I had a set of those, then upgraded to Zulu soon after they hit the streets. I now have three: two for my airplane, and one for work. Under normal circumstances I'll never go back to passive, there simply is no comparison.

Yes, the Zulus, Lightspeed's top of the line over-the-ear headsets are expensive. On the other hand they're backed by a company with a great reputation for excellent service and a 5-year warranty. The extra I paid for mine have been repaid ten-fold with quiet comfort. Makes sitting in a light-twin feel like I'm sitting in my living room.
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Old 07-29-2009, 11:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I have a Lightspeed Zulu and I couldn't ask for a better headset, comfortable and quiet. It also has blue tooth for my phone and various different settings allowing me to adjust the sound for music. To be honest though I don't listen to music when I'm flying, I do when I'm a passenger, I just feel it takes away your focus from the task at hand.
I agree, I absolutely LOVE my Lightspeed Zulu. It is pricey, but I felt my hearing is worth it. I chose it over the Bose (and yes, I have flown with the Bose on numerous occasions) for price, the ability to plug in my iPod, and reviews. Upon receiving it, I was blown away. It's so comfortable! When I'm flying our Phenom and wearing the Zulu, it's so quiet. The Phenom is already a quiet jet, but ANR does wonders.

RuggedAir, if you can add an ANR to your line, go for it. If you can add a well-made, good-quality ANR in the $400-500 range (give or take), I think you'll have some lookers. It seems that ANR headsets are either TONS of money (and work wonderfully), or are cheaper and work "ho-hum."

Of course, this is all my humble opinion.
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Have had a good experience with my David Clark H10-13X ANR (they call it ENC) headset. Some people like DC others don't but I really like it. The gel ear seals are nice, although I can tell that it doesn't form quite as good of a seal if I have my sunglasses on vs. without (even though they are thin wire frame types).

I used to have a Lightspeed 25XL which was ANR, I was always afraid the thing was going to snap if I wasn't gentle with it. Not to say that Lightspeed's newer stuff is that way, I've heard very good things about the Zulu.
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:23 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Well it looks like we are going to start putting ANR in our line of Aviation Products. $299 with a warranty ... is that a good price or do you think that $299 is a "cheapo" price? I know when i go to buy stuff i tend to stay away from the cheapest priced stuff since it usually isn't made that well.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:03 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Where I am coming from $299 is not too cheapo to turn my nose up at.

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I am interested with all the positive feed back about Zulu's.

I had an eight hour x-c last month. I wore my DCs 10-30 ($250 passive) with zero irritation all day.

On the return trip, also roughly eight hours I wore a friends Zulu, they started to bother the bone behind my ear, the mastoid. Anybody else get that?
Maybe mine are oddly shaped and makes the clamping force of the DC10-30s oh-so-good.
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I'm seriously looking at getting an ANR hedset and it seems that a lot of you guys have bought LightSpeed (which a co-worker has also recommended - he just got one few months ago). Have any of you had them for a long period of time? I'm wondering how they hold up in the long term (or have they been around for very long, even?)
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:31 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm seriously looking at getting an ANR hedset and it seems that a lot of you guys have bought LightSpeed (which a co-worker has also recommended - he just got one few months ago). Have any of you had them for a long period of time? I'm wondering how they hold up in the long term (or have they been around for very long, even?)
Bluenose, I believe LightSpeed has been around for quite some time. I wasn't sure if you were referring to the company or the product. I've had my LS Zulu for 1.5-2 yrs now and have had zero issues and is still working wonderfully. I have been taking good care of it though and use the case all the time.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I have several hundred hours in each of the Bose, Zulus, and DC 10.13? ANR

Bose is by far # 1 When listening to music they have better bass, a better mic, and a lighter grip on the head. Downside, No Bluetooth (My Boss's plane has both the Zulu and Bose and were both always fighting for the Bose ha)

Zulu # 2. They have a better ear piece in my opinion then the Bose, and they got Bluetooth. Downside, Mic sensitivity isnt that great, and sound quality dont quite match the Bose.

David Clark # 3. Good headset for the price. Built solid too. Best Passive headset. Downside: clamps hard on your head and you really feel it after 8 hours .

I wont ever use anything other then ANR if I got a choice My goal is to keep my hearing.
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Old 09-16-2009, 04:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Bose is by far # 1 When listening to music they have better bass, a better mic, and a lighter grip on the head. Downside, No Bluetooth (My Boss's plane has both the Zulu and Bose and were both always fighting for the Bose ha)

Zulu # 2. They have a better ear piece in my opinion then the Bose, and they got Bluetooth. Downside, Mic sensitivity isnt that great, and sound quality dont quite match the Bose...
From what I've heard, Zulu isn't far behind Bose, but Bose costs a couple of hundred more (I don't really care about bluetooth or listening to music).

Your comment about mike sensitivity interests me, though, Fly_Unity, because I will be using it in an Islander, and I'm wondering if that will be good or bad. If it is not as sensitive, does that mean that it won't pick up the engine noise (yay!), or that I will have to crank the squelch for normal speech so that it will be more prone to pick up engine noise ?

If I fly a lot on a given day, my Dave Clark does indeed start to get tiring. Most notably, I am currently wearing braces to correct a jaw problem, and prior to that had a fair bit of jaw pain where it clamped on right at the jaw joint. That problem is almost corrected, but t'other day after a long day, I was a bit sore in my jaw still, so the clamping is not good.

I just noticed lately, though, that I'm starting to hear the engine noise more, so I am concened about long term hearing loss if my headset is no longer doing its job.

Boy, a new headset sure is expensive, though
(if anybody knows about any sales, let me know)
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Bluenose, I believe LightSpeed has been around for quite some time. I wasn't sure if you were referring to the company or the product. I've had my LS Zulu for 1.5-2 yrs now and have had zero issues and is still working wonderfully. I have been taking good care of it though and use the case all the time.
Mostly the company and how durable the headset is for the long term. I am pretty careful of my headset as well - always have it in its case, albeit a soft one (not like the hard one that my co-worker has his new Lightspeed in).

My (non-ANR) David Clark is really good - I've had for over 10 years (maybe 15 - can't even remember), but I know a guy who had the DC ANR, and the little box that does the ANR is just a box full of parts (for quite some time). It sounds like a maraqua (sp?). He's pretty tough on headsets, but still - it concerns me that it would just fall apart inside, so I think I'll stay away from DC ANR.
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Old 09-16-2009, 03:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Mostly the company and how durable the headset is for the long term. I am pretty careful of my headset as well - always have it in its case, albeit a soft one (not like the hard one that my co-worker has his new Lightspeed in).

My (non-ANR) David Clark is really good - I've had for over 10 years (maybe 15 - can't even remember), but I know a guy who had the DC ANR, and the little box that does the ANR is just a box full of parts (for quite some time). It sounds like a maraqua (sp?). He's pretty tough on headsets, but still - it concerns me that it would just fall apart inside, so I think I'll stay away from DC ANR.
I think the earlier, pre-Zulu LightSpeeds had issues, which is one reason I was hesitant with the Zulu and almost went with the Bose. However, after reading lots of reviews, everyone had said that issues had been fixed with the introduction of the Zulu and that it was a quality piece. I'd agree!

Also, regarding the mic sensitivity, I've never had any issues at all with mine. I speak in my normal voice, same as I did in the DC, Bose and Senheiser (sp?!?!) and it's all the same. For reference, I've worn them in piston singles (Bonanza/C206), C-90s, King Air 350s, Citation 500s, Beechjets and the Phenom 100.

One thing I like about the Zulu over the Bose, since speaking of music, is that the Zulu has the adapter for the iPod, where the Bose doesn't (or didn't, maybe they do now?).
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I can't say enough about the Lightspeed ZULU.

I never thought I would ever spend this kind of money on a headset until I wore one once. They are truly AWESOME!!!

I represent many models of headsets and have worn most of them, the Bose are very good, but as a few have mentioned the Lightspeeds have a better control module and also have Bluetooth connectivity for music and phone.

Lastly, if anyone is looking for a set please let me know. I need to fill an order with Lightspeed in the next few days and can certainly add you to it. The Zulu's sell for 850.00 everywhere, I can probably help you get them for a little less through a coupon to my pilot shop. Email me for a special TAF coupon if interested.

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Old 11-17-2009, 04:25 PM   #18 (permalink)
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For noise reduction, the best is actually the anr version of the basic H10 .13 headset, u get a great combination of the ANR and the passive noise reduction given by the headset's base construction.

The Bose x is the best for comfort for sure, have had one ever since I bought myself one as a present when I passed my JAA exams 4 years ago!
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Sennheiser

I have the Sennheisers, and while they perform decently, I have had some annoying popping on engine beats. It's most prevalent during takeoff in the Cherokees I fly. My guess is that it's the noise-measuring microphone being overloaded and sending a clipped (then inverted) signal to the speaker. I say this because it's mainly in the left ear, which of course is closest to the window.

I think this set was only about $500, so I'll probably get a better one and use this for passengers. These offer very little passive noise-sealing. If the ANR fails, I don't know that these will be of much use. The other issue (and this is almost unforgivably bad design) is that there's no auto-shutoff, despite the on/off switch being a momentary pushbutton. You WILL waste two AA batteries after many a flight, so you can't fly without extras in the storage case.

Sound quality is good, though, and the cord includes an input for a cell phone or iPod.

It would be nice if these headsets came with two detachable cords, one for use while flying and then a shorter & thinner one for just listening to music when you're flying as a passenger on a commercial flight.

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Old 12-17-2009, 05:55 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I tried out a Bose Aviation X and a Lightspeed Zulu before I bought Bose. The difference in sound quality was marginal.

On the plus side for Lightspeed Zulu was Bluetooth and the ability to plug in your music player. On its minus was the huge hard case.

What decided me was the fact that Bose was offering zero percent APR financing for 12 months. I believe you can get this still if you buy from a Bose store. I don't use the Bose case either. I just fold the headset and put it inside my Brightline pilot bag. I think the Bose folds more compact, and I couldn't have done this with the Zulu.

I am told that the Telex ANR sets are pretty good too. Never tried them on, but I didn't like the look of the massive ear cups and hence the Micky Mouse look of the wearer.

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