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Old 01-08-2013, 10:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Spin recovery/vid

Anyone seen this???

Pilot recovers from a 26-spin turn. [VIDEO]
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Old 01-09-2013, 12:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Saw that on a TV show a few years ago. It's Tipsy Nipper and the pilot wasn't familiar with spins in that aircraft and it took him a while to get it stable to recover.

Always have altitude when trying something new...
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Old 01-09-2013, 01:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Tipsy Nipper?

lol- never heard of it. Gonna have to look that one up!

Thx for the info John. I assumed it was new since I just now saw it posted online.
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I was getting sick and dizzy watching it. My stomach doesn't do well in small AC. I tossed my cookies over a glacier near Anchorage a few years ago.

Do the pilots get dizzy in those situations? Or is it like being car-sick? The person driving doesn't get car-sick, but the passengers do.
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I took an "upset training" course in college. It was an excuse to get 6.6 in a Super Decathlon and do some aerobatics. We did spins, but recovered quickly. First, our hard-deck was 3,000ft. If we hadn't recovered by then, it's bailout time.

I found that around 0.9 into a 1.1 sortie, I was getting a little green. Not totally due to spins but they definitely contributed.

I also found in 1100 or so hours in the C-130 that the human body can adapt to a lot. My first few low-level formation formation flights I came very close to puking (lots of people do) even standing in the window and taking hits of oxygen, but after the first 50 hours or so, it didn't bother me to sit at my desk heads-down and not look outside.
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When I first started aerobatics seriously, I'd watch what I ate beforehand and had to sit in the parking lot for 30 minutes after before I tried to drive home.

Now I'll run to Subway, scarf a half foot Italian with extra peppers and then go fly a sequence. As with everything, your body does get used to the unusual attitudes.
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That was a crazy video - I wonder what his starting altitude was...?
And what happened to his engine - shouldn't have failed just because he was spinning. Makes me want to search around and see if there are details to be found... Tipsy Nipper you say...hmmmm....
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I remember stumbling upon that video a few months ago. The flat spin looks pretty terrifying. Blue, re: the apparent engine failure, I wondered the same thing. Could the centrifugal force of the spin have interrupted fuel flow or starved the engine of oxygen?
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Most Tipsy Nippers have VW engines with only a fuselage tank. In the spin, the fuel unported and starved the engine. He didn't have a starter and the prop didn't windmill, so his only option was to put her on the ground.
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Most Tipsy Nippers have VW engines with only a fuselage tank. In the spin, the fuel unported and starved the engine. He didn't have a starter and the prop didn't windmill, so his only option was to put her on the ground.
So I take it it's not spin certified, if it's that easy to unport the fuel feed?
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Thanks for the explanation, John.
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I'm not savvy on UK certification requirements, but the Nipper is approved for aerobatics. There are a number of reasons that could have caused the problem.
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