User Name  
Password    



The Aviation Forum > Aviation > General Aviation > First Ice of the Season
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-09-2013, 02:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
TAF Moderator
 
Bluenose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 09, 2004
Location: Canada's East Coast
Posts: 6,169
First Ice of the Season

First significant ice of the season - for me at least

I've been in some light rime a bit, but got my first dose of moderate rime for the first time this season. Ahh yes, the gentle crashing of the ice as it slides off the props and whacks the fuselage, the horizontal snow changing to cloud as you climb up into the moisture laden layer, the glint of the ice light off the pretty ice as it quickly accumulates on the boots.... ya gotta love winter in Canada....

At least I got to enjoy one of the last overnights of the season without having to do full covers. Just threw in the engine plugs and pitot covers and off I went. Next month when I do the same trip I'll be standing out in the dark putting the wing, tail and engine covers on. Not too bad if the wind's light, but there've been times when I was by myself and wondering if I was gonna get airborne while holding the wing covers. I always thought kite sailing looked fun, but not without a board and water (boots and pavement look not near as fun).

Okay, so that's my whine for the evening... any good ice stories (or just general whining) that you want to do?

P.S. Any job openings someplace warm for a chilly Canuck? I only need it until spring and promise to limit myself to 50 "eh"s in a day
__________________
Bluenose
TAF Moderator
Bluenose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2013, 06:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
TAF Moderator
 
Redguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 09, 2004
Location: Somewhere Cold and White
Posts: 9,280
The last few years I've really not run through alot of ice. Not sure if it's just not been as bad or I've gotten better at avoiding it. The last significant icing I had was actually in the summer. Got into ice at 20,000, tried to climb out of it unsucessfully. At those altitudes it doesn't take much to really start degrading the performance on the A100 King Air I fly. So I had to drop back down to 16,000, one of those days 180 wasn't availible :/
Redguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2013, 10:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
TAF Moderator
 
Bluenose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 09, 2004
Location: Canada's East Coast
Posts: 6,169
Ahhh - but I should have said, I was in the Navajo, so stuck in the ice zone. Filed for 9 (tops were forecast for 7), ended up going for the block 9-11 so I could get to 10,000 (tops were actually at 9700). I've got full de-ice, but didn't want to hang around in the zone for any period of time.

Each year there's that first flight of the fall where you go "Wow, ice can happen really fast!" I've heard on a number of occasions pilots in aircraft without icing protection saying something like "I'll just go up and take a look - if I get any ice I can always come right back around and land...." I get a little motherly at that point and probably make myself unpopular by telling them that they may not have seen significant ice , but in bad stuff, you may not make it back around for the landing. Your wings may even be doing okay (i.e. still flying, albeit poorly), but I've seen a windscreen ice up in 90 seconds such that you couldn't see out.

I am super cautious about ice, even flying aircraft with de-icing equipment
__________________
Bluenose
TAF Moderator
Bluenose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 06:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Vlad_Arm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 27, 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA, US (from Yerevan, Armenia)
Posts: 2,432
Here is my first ice of the year.
While overflying big bear lake situated at about 7000ft two days ago on my way to phoenix I could see patches of ice.
Attached Thumbnails
First Ice of the Season-936009_10152019931656031_1065843167_n.jpg  
__________________
---live and dream about the days that are yet to come---

My youtube channel
Vlad_Arm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 06:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Ira NZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 18, 2003
Location: Upper Hutt, New Zealand
Posts: 3,951
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluenose View Post

P.S. Any job openings someplace warm for a chilly Canuck? I only need it until spring and promise to limit myself to 50 "eh"s in a day
It's spring here and I hear there's demand for pilots...
__________________
'15000 atheists in London rioted after a blank sheet of paper was found on a cartoonist's desk'

If you pull back long enough.... Eventually, the houses will get bigger again.
Ira NZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2013, 11:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Vlad_Arm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 27, 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA, US (from Yerevan, Armenia)
Posts: 2,432
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ira NZ View Post
It's spring here and I hear there's demand for pilots...
Can I come?
Vlad_Arm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2013, 03:25 PM   #7 (permalink)
TAF Moderator
 
Redguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 09, 2004
Location: Somewhere Cold and White
Posts: 9,280
I actually got into some pretty good ice last night as I crossed a cold front in southern Indiana. at 11,000ft I got into the tops and began rappidly accumulating mixed ice. I tried to climb out of it going up to 14,000ft but the clouds just follwed me up. I lost 50kts in just a couple minutes, you could litterally see the airspeed decaying. Luckily all my anit/deice equipment was working so that initial 50kts I lost was the worst of it. Regained about 20kts by blowing the boots. I decended out the bottom of the clouds at 9,000 and was clear of the ice for the rest of the night. But I picked up a good 4 inches in area's that where unprotected, had a softball sized chunk on the end of each of the wiper arms.
Redguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2013, 11:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
TAF Moderator
 
Bluenose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 09, 2004
Location: Canada's East Coast
Posts: 6,169
Man, Red - those flights are the scary ones! It's especially bad at night because at least in the daytime you can get lucky with getting a block of airspace (we can usually get that up here in open sky country : ), and finding little spaces between layers to wander up and down in.

And as I look over my initial post I suddenly went... "Hey, wait a minute, what about that flight in Labrador last month (or was it the month before?)" Oh well, no matter how you slice it, we're definitely into ice season on the east coast now
__________________
Bluenose
TAF Moderator
Bluenose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2013, 01:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
TAF Moderator
 
Redguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 09, 2004
Location: Somewhere Cold and White
Posts: 9,280
[QUOTE=Bluenose;203211] at least in the daytime you can get lucky with getting a block of airspace QUOTE]

Daytime? Isn't that when your suposed to sleep?

If your getting ice ATC will usually give you anything you want alt wise, as long as your not on the east coast. Those controllers don't care what the weather is, they'd fly you through a tornado to keep you on a prefered route if you'd let them.
Redguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2013, 11:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
TAF Moderator
 
Bluenose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 09, 2004
Location: Canada's East Coast
Posts: 6,169
East coast of Canada - nor'east coast of US - no point in asking, they're taking you wherever they feel like...

Moncton centre and Gander centre are both really great, plus with Gander you get the homey accent
__________________
Bluenose
TAF Moderator
Bluenose is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This Content

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
(c) 2002-2012 The Aviation Forum, All Rights ReservedAd Management plugin by RedTyger

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.1