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Old 08-14-2006, 04:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Amsterdam to detroit - what plane?

I will be flying from Amsterdam (Schiphol) to Detroit (Metro) in September with KLM. Can anyone tell me what kind of aircraft flies that route normally? Is there a website anywhere that lists what planes fly what routes (obviously airline dependant)?
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Old 08-14-2006, 05:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You should be able to find this out on the airline's own web site in their scheduling information.

And welcome to TAF! I moved your thread to Civil Aviation. The Questions forum is for questions about the site.
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd check to find out if you will actually be flying on a KLM aircraft or if this route will be a NWA codeshare. If it is you'll most likely be on a DC-10 or an A330.

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yeah, if your going to DTW its a NWA A330-300series
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Old 08-16-2006, 01:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Talking

Thanks guys,

I hoped it would be the A333 as I belive it has a pretty cool in flight entertainment system.

While I'm on, I have a couple of other questions -

I normally have problems with ear popping on flights. First, why do ears pop on flights in the first place? I understand the whole pressure equalisation thing but, why is the cabin pressure not just set to the same as the ground, and why does it change as you ascend/decend? Shouldn't it remain constant?

On a similar note, I have never experienced a problem on a Fokker 70. Any reason for this? Does it have a more sophisticated pressurisation system (or am I just talking geeky nonsense)?

Lastly, another "what plane" question....

DTW to EWR (NWA)
JFK to AMS (NWA/KLM)

Thanks again for your help,
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Well, for the first question:

Cabin pressure isn't the same as on the ground because of a couple of reasons. Firstly at high altitudes you would have a very high differential pressure between the outside of the cabin and the inside and that places a lot of stress on the airframe. Secondly to get that much pressure would put a lot of load on the packs which would shorten their life and would take a lot of bleed air which would rob engine power.

Pressurization controllers vary from aircraft to aircraft, but most newer ones fly a "Pressurization profile." When the plane starts roll down the runway the controller will actually start pressurizing the cabin to slightly above the ambient pressure. As you climb out the controller will allow cabin pressure to decrease at preset rate to a max of 5,000 to 8,000 feet. As the aircraft descends the flight crew will have already programmed the controller with the landing field elevation. With this figure the controller can control the pressure down to the runway. I have never worked on a Fokker 70 so I can't venture a guess as to its pressurization.

DTW-EWR: depending on load factors I would guess a DC-9, A320 or a 757-200. I wouldn't think anything larger than that and I'm sure that's a high enough volume flight that you wouldn't be on an RJ.

JFK-AMSunno, DC-10, MD-11 or another A330 would be my guess although you might get a 747.

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Thanks again. That makes a lot of sense. Don't want the fuselage blowing apart at 30000 feet just so my freakin ears don't pop.

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hey SATAvtech.... you were really close lol ... dtw-ewr, they fly two different aircraft types (A319, DC-9-50) and from jfk-ams (KLM B777) ... your going to love the triple 7 ... i never flew on a a319 so i dont know how nice it is but the dc9 is very smooth
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Thanks again. That makes a lot of sense. Don't want the fuselage blowing apart at 30000 feet just so my freakin ears don't pop.

Cheers,

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